Cannabis Education and How It Can Help Animals │ Bliss Education and VeterinaryPsy

Cannabis Education and How It Can Help Animals │ Bliss Education and VeterinaryPsy

ANIMAL INNOVATIONS SHOW - EPISODE 138 - VETERINARY PSY & BLISS EDUCATION

Cannabis Education and How It Can Help Animals │ Bliss Education and VeterinaryPsy

Cannabis sounds like bad, terrible news for most people ─ one that they would rather stay far away from. Cannabis has a bad reputation that makes people want to steer clear of it. 

Even with the loosening of cannabis laws in certain countries and states, it still is a delicate and controversial topic for most. With the prejudice against Cannabis, it is not a surprise that people are unaware of its benefits, especially for veterinary medicine. 

The lack of knowledge about Cannabis pushed Dr. Gewehr and Dr. Andre to work together. 

 

Importance of Cannabis Education

Cannabis Education and How It Can Help Animals │ Bliss Education and VeterinaryPsy

Dr. Gewehr is a Master’s Candidate in a federal state university in Brazil who is looking to do research with Cannabis on dogs and cats for his professional career. 

“Personally, I’m trying to launch my start-up, which is named Bliss Education. Bliss consists of a platform, which will provide education about Cannabis with different topics, and in 3 languages. “

According to Dr. Gewehr, the United States has taken charge of regulating Cannabis. He recognized the difficulties of educating people about Cannabis, especially outside the United States. He aims to give international quality education about Cannabis, especially to non-native English speakers. 

Bliss Education offers scientifically-based content that safely promotes therapies and helps potential patients find appropriate professionals to assist them with their needs

His passion for learning and spreading cannabis education started with mere curiosity. Then, Dr. Gewehr saw the enormous medical potential in Cannabis. From past research and studies, he saw good results and a promising future for Cannabis. 

Meanwhile, Dr. Andre is a military vet currently exploring Psychedelic Medicine for animals.

“We are focusing on harm reduction first; that’s a big piece of what our platform is, and making sure the risk is reduced, the harm is reduced.”

Like Dr. Gewehr, she recognized the potential of Cannabis. She read past studies about its healing capabilities, mainly from the human side. She is working to apply it to the animal side, as well. 

 

Clinical Applications of Cannabis

Cannabis Education and How It Can Help Animals │ Bliss Education and VeterinaryPsy

According to Dr. Andre,

“There was a huge piece of my practice that I was missing.”

It was from her time as a military veterinarian. She never used steroids nor performed surgery. However, she needed to find something to help facilitate the animal body’s healing. 

Dr. Andre knew she needed a modality to help her patients. That was the start of her journey to trying various methods; Acupuncture, rehab, then massage. When not one of them worked, she came across studies about Cannabis. 

“It is one modality that really helps veterinary practitioners keep the body safe and repair those smaller injuries before they become overblown, and we have to pull out the heavy guns.”

Andre focused on the medical applications of Cannabis. Not long after her quest of diving deep into cannabis education, she met Dr. Gewehr. 

With their platforms, they educate people about Cannabis. They help people discover the healing potential of Cannabis and its benefits to veterinary medicine. 

Dr. Andre and Dr. Gewehr are working to provide scientific and practical Cannabis and veterinary medical education to pet parents and professionals. They aim to make Cannabis much more approachable to both pet parents and veterinary professionals.

“Cannabis is used as medicine for over 500 years in veterinary medicine in the US and across the world. It became a little tough for people to do the research and apply it to animals. So now, luckily, that has changed, and that continuously changes all across the globe.”

 

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Dr. Gewehr: Hello, everybody, I’m Dr. Gewehr

Dr. Andre: I am Cassara Andre, and you’re tuned in to The Animal Innovations Show.

Chris: Dr. Gewehr, why don’t I start with you. Why don’t you tell us who you are and how you’re innovating and helping animals?

Dr. Gewehr: Personally, I’m trying to launch my startup, which is named Bliss Education. Bliss consists in a platform that will provide education about cannabis with different topics in three languages.

And I can see there are a lot of difficulties in educating about cannabis, especially outside the United States. The United States has led a charge in regulating cannabis and starting this education program.

But right now, my current goal is to provide this education for people who don’t speak English and for people who speak English also.

And this month, if everything goes well, I’m going to launch my social media, which is—I’m trying to do interviews with professionals who work with cannabis, translating those interviews, and launching them for people all across the world.

Chris: Very cool, that’s really awesome.

Dr. Andre, how about you, tell us who you are and how you’re innovating and helping animals?

Dr. Andre: Now, as I begin to slide a little bit away from the cannabis track.  I am interested in exploring the use of psychedelic medicine in animals.

So, we’re approaching that— really like we have done in cannabis in the past, over the past five years, and focusing on harm reduction, first.

That’s a big piece of what our platform is and making sure that the risk is reduced, the harm is reduced.

I’m familiar with, and I’ve worked with a lot of canine PTSD, and there are some molecules in the psychedelic medicine category that are beginning to show some really amazing results for a human PTSD.

And so, I’m really curious of what we might do in the future, what we can look towards. How can we initiate some research studies that begin to investigate?

Can some of these molecules also be used for emotional trauma, particularly PTSD in our animals? Why dogs and cats?

Chris: Why is this an area that you really want to focus on? And what do people need to know about this?

Dr. Gewehr: People don’t know what cannabis is they don’t know how to define cannabis, what separates cannabis from marijuana or from hemp?

And that’s a very delicate topic for us to talk about.

When I started with cannabis, it was just about my curiosity. So, I decided to go to the US. To do my internship. And I tried to think.. Okay, I wanted to bring something new to Brazil.

I didn’t want to go to the US and do the same thing. So, I reached out to Dr. Andre. She accepted me to do the internship. That was back in 2019.

And when I started this kind of therapy and I started to learn about it, it just amazed me and the therapy also. We see a lot of diseases that can be treated with cannabis. We see a medication or a supplement, depending on the country that you are living in.

There is a lot of research to be done with different kinds of molecules that the plant produces. So, it is pretty amazing.

Cannabis has been used as a medicine for over 500 years. In veterinary medicine, in the US, and across the world.

It became a little tough for people to do the research and to apply it for animals. So right now, luckily, that has changed and that continues to change all across the globe.

But we are saying that we have definitely some very good results and a very promising future.

Chris: So, Dr. Andre, why has this become a passion for you?

Dr. Andre: It has always been a passion to find innovative ways of healing.

When I was in the military as an active—active duty officer, I was working with a lot of working canines, and this is sporting medicine on the human side.

But also I found that there was a huge piece of my practice that I was missing. There was a training injury.

So, while I wasn’t working with cannabis while I was in the military, and that’s really started after—

Since then, my patients are needing a modality and I don’t have it yet. And so, cannabis is a modality that fits really well into that scheme.

It is one modality that really helps veterinary practitioners keep the body safe and repair some of those smaller injuries before they become overblown and we have to pull out the heavy guns.

I have really focused on the clinical applications. There is so much research from the human side. There is now some really amazing research on the animal side.

What’s really missing is how do we make that jump to putting it into the patient. And then Dr. Gewehr started out with me on that clinical side and still, actually he just came on board as our medical director.

But then he has some new avenues of his own that are really exciting.

Dr. Gewehr: In Brazil, cannabis is still not allowed in the same way, as it is in the US. It’s not regulated. We need special authorization from a judge for us to work.

My dream, actually, is to work with the endocannabinoid system.  There is a lot that we need to learn about it.

I’m sure a lot of diseases that we are seeing today are going to be related to the endocannabinoid system, both as a cause of—like a disturbance on it.

But cannabis is a little more easy to research because for us to research about the endocannabinoid system, we need a lot of special equipment, very expensive equipment for us to actually take a look.

And cannabis, it’s a little more simple.

Chris: I mean, where does somebody even begin, right?

Dr. Gewehr: If you need guidance, you can look for Veterinary Cannabis. I’m sure they will be happy to guide you in product choosing.

But yes, it’s not just something that you give to the animal, it is something that you need correct dosing on, you need lab tests for you to make sure that you are having the appropriate amount of molecules in that extract.

So, we have products that can have pesticides,can have heavy metals, can have microbial like bacterias.

So, it is something that we need to have proper guidance.

Dr. Andre: I think that the mission of the company that we worked, I’ve stood up over the past five years, Veterinary Cannabis is to make cannabis really approachable for both pet parents but also veterinary professionals.

Because it is such a fun modality to work with. And the response in cases is amazing. As a practitioner, it is so lovely to be able to have this as a modality for some of those cases that just—— are not responding to anything else.

You see, those respond beautifully in cannabis.

Chris: Yeah, that’s so interesting to me. I appreciate the fact that both of you are on the forefront, right, and you’re pushing the envelope into things that are it’s a little bit edgy and scary, but ten years from now, we’ll probably look back on this and be like, this has always been great, why haven’t we done this?

But right now, there’s so much to be done and to educate people on this and the ins and outs of it.

So, maybe as we kind of start to come towards the end of this. Dr. Gewehr, is there anything else you want to make sure to bring up before we wrap things up?

Dr. Gewehr: If you want to see about cannabis education and international quality education. So, if you are interested in cannabis, look it up. Bliss Education that I’m sure you won’t regret it.

Dr. Andre: VETERINARYCANNABIS.ORG

If there’s someone who has questions about, what do I do? What do I do in this case? Or I need some help with my—my own animal, that’s our cannabis portion.

And then for the psychedelic piece, we are working through Veterinary Psy. So, VETERINARYPSY.ORG is where you can find some of the work that we’re beginning to think about and think towards and even be part of the brainstorming.

If someone is interested in beginning to help us problem solve what we’re doing, we’d love to have some collaborators.

Chris: As I just wrap up the show, here with our viewers and listeners. I mean, to me, Innovation, this is it. This is at the forefront of this and people that are helping animals and those of us that love our animals.

So, maybe you’re listening or watching and you’ve got an idea for a product or a service, or something that’s going to help our animals. 

Well, we’d love to talk about it. We’d love to have you on the show. So, just go to INNOVATIONS.SHOW and fill out the form and we’d be happy to have you on the show and talk about it.

And don’t forget to please sign up and be a Dooberteer. Just go to DOOBERT.COM where you can sign up to be a foster, and transporter so many different ways that you can volunteer to help animals. And we’d love to have you.

So, Dr. Gewehr, Dr. Andre, thank you so much for both coming on and being so open and transparent about a delicate subject.

So, thank you very much. I really enjoyed the conversation with both of you.

Dr. Andre: Absolutely. Thanks, everyone.

Dr. Gewehr: Thank you so much, Chris, thank you all so much.

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